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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2009, 11:48:44 AM »

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Thank you for letting us know this very important information Wintermute!
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2009, 09:15:57 AM »

It has also been noticed that something fishy is going on with the CDC counts VS the WHO counts. They do not add up.
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There are several significant curiosities that can be derived from the raw number obtained from the CDC.

There is definitely some fuzzing of these numbers by the CDC. It could just be a delay in reporting the numbers, or a delay in testing, but there is definitely something odd going on.

The first, and perhaps most important, is that the CDC is telling the pubic one set of numbers, but the WHO is publishing a different set of numbers. The difference appears to be about a 5 week lag behind in reporting numbers. Either the CDC is delaying the confirmation of the virus in patients, or states are reporting numbers late, or the CDC is just pulling number out of thin air.

Notice that the number of people tested in early May were huge (30k in one week, 27.4k+ in the next week), with a positive return rate of under 10%. But then the testing radically decreases the following week, and for every week afterwards, but the rate of positive returns skyrocketed. If we did 30,000 tests in one week, then why so few now, when the death rate has become so high?

The number of people confirmed with H1N1 is continuing to climb ever upwards, and something is very fishy about the numbers that the CDC is publishing, and even more fishy about the numbers that the WHO is reporting back to the CDC.

The number of U.S. deaths continue to climb, and in the past two weeks there have been several confirmed cases (by the CDC), and cases in Asia (infected U.S. Citizen who got stopped from entering a Asian country due to their being sick on arrival at airport) of H1N1 Variants that are not responding at all to any of the top three anti-virals.


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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2009, 01:02:54 PM »

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Canadian Doctor: H1N1 Vaccination a Eugenics Weapon for Mass Extermination
Canadian doctor Ghislaine Lanctôt, author of the Medical Mafia, has underscored the lawsuit recently filed by Austrian journalist Jane Bürgermeister against the WHO, the UN, and several high ranking government and corporate officials. Bürgermeister has documented how an international corporate criminal syndicate plans to unleash a deadly flu virus and institute a forced vaccination program.


Click the link above and examine.
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2009, 05:05:49 PM »

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Note the language in this clip: Americans will be “required” to get multiple vaccinations.

I think I'll pass, thanks anyway.

I'm sure they will most likely turn out to make people sick.

My Theory:

They released one version of the flu already. Not much happened. So then they released another version, and now its working so-so, but gosh darnnit people just aren't dying quickly enough for their timetable.

So now they are giving everyone one of each version, so they mix together to create a super flu once injected. This way they can make sure.

Then they can just say "People are now dying from the vaccinations? *feigned surprise* We just didn't have time to properly test it before giving it to everyone. Oops."
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2009, 08:56:44 PM »

What makes no sense is that if the mortality rate is really that low, why do we need a forced experimental vaccine??? 

My immune system is so bad that if they gave me a shot, God only knows what it would do to me.  I've refused all flu shots for years.  And guess what, I only had the real flu ONE time in the last fifteen years or so.  I had a really bad flu somewhere in the mid 90's.  It was a year where everyone was getting it and it was really bad.  I was sick with it for four months.  But I haven't had one since.  I'd rather take my chances and up my vitamin D intake.
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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2009, 05:54:58 AM »

I came across this while doing the weird news links, and thought I should post it here.

Swine flu sweeping world 'at speed'

July 18, 2009 03:39am

 THE World Health Organisation says swine flu has swept the globe at "unprecedented speed", and a study warns that the pandemic could tip the world into deflation and delay the economic recovery.
The WHO said it will stop giving figures on the numbers infected by the A(H1N1) virus to allow countries to channel resources into close monitoring of unexpected developments and patterns in the spread of the disease.

Argentina, meanwhile, issued a nationwide alert after pigs were confirmed to have the swine flu virus, health authorities said.

"We have detected clinical cases of the A(H1N1) influenza in a pig farm in Buenos Aires province, they have been confirmed by laboratory tests," the national farm and food standards agency said.

In Brazil, the number of deaths from swine flu nearly tripled to 11, including the first person shown to have caught the virus spontaneously within the country.

The increased tally given by Health Minister Jose Gomes late on Thursday added seven to the four fatalities previously given.

The WHO said in an information note on its website the influenza pandemic has "spread internationally with unprecedented speed".

"In past pandemics, influenza viruses have needed more than six months to spread as widely as the new H1N1 virus has spread in less than six weeks."

The Geneva-based health agency said the counting of all individual cases is no longer essential to assess the risk from swine flu.

"WHO will continue to request that these countries report the first confirmed cases and, as far as feasible, provide weekly aggregated case numbers and descriptive epidemiology of the early cases," it added.

While it eased its overall reporting requirement, the WHO called on all countries to "closely monitor unusual events", such as possible clusters of severe or fatal infections, or unusual patterns that might be associated with worsening disease.

In Britain, a study by Oxford Economics - a forecasting consultancy whose clients include multinational corporations and government - said recovery could be delayed by a couple of years due to the swine flu pandemic.

"Although so far the social and economic impacts have been very small, if infection rates were to rise much further, significant costs could be expected," it said.

Comparing the outbreak to the 2003 SARS crisis, it said that outbreak had occurred at a time of strong economic growth. Both consumption and growth had returned as soon as the epidemic was considered under control.

"This time around, such a sharp rebound is unlikely," it said.

"There is a risk that swine flu tips the United Kingdom and the world economy into deflation. This is because the pandemic would hit at a time when businesses and banks are still reeling from the economic crisis."

On Thursday, England's chief medical officer Liam Donaldson said that in a worst case scenario, around one in three Britons could be infected and 65,000 could die.

The WHO policy shift was partly motivated by the "mildness of symptoms in the overwhelming majority of patients, who usually recover, even without medical treatment, within a week of the onset of symptoms".

In some countries, the investigation and laboratory testing of all cases had absorbed huge resources, leaving health systems with little capacity to monitor severe cases or exceptional events that might mark an increase in the virulence of swine flu.

In the last table released by the WHO on July 6, the health agency had recorded 94,512 laboratory-confirmed cases in 136 countries and territories since April, including 429 deaths.


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Bid to calm fears over flu vaccine

Bid to calm fears over flu vaccine

A senior adviser to the Government has moved to calm concerns over the swine flu vaccine after questions were raised about whether it will have been sufficiently tested before it is used.

Professor Sir Gordon Duff, co-chairman of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies, said the benefits far outweighed any potential risks.

The first deliveries of the vaccine are expected in August. But a spokesman for the European Medicines Agency told The Independent newspaper: "What the manufacturers will be submitting will not have any clinical trial data."

He added: "We expect the interim adult data from September and the first paediatric data from October onwards."

The Department of Health said the vaccine would be safe and warned that any suggestion otherwise would create unnecessary panic.

Sir Gordon, who is also chairman of the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Advisory Committee, told the Press Association: "We are content that benefits far outweigh the risks."

He said the companies preparing the vaccine had been working on "core" vaccines which had been tested on 6,000 people.

"In a pandemic, you can't predict what the virus is going to be, so to make a vaccine you use a similar virus. These core vaccines have been tested on 5,000-6,000 people already, with no serious adverse effects.

"It is inconceivable that in the UK we would consider a vaccine without giving a full scientific appraisal of its benefits and theoretical risks. That is just what these risks are - theoretical."
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2009, 06:45:41 PM »

Be aware that there is further proof of the possibilities that vaccine for H1N1 could be harmful:

http://cryptome.org/h1n1/squalene-h1n1.htm
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http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://cryptome.org/h1n1/squalene-h1n1.htm
More on Squaline:(Note that it may be linked to Gulf War Syndrome)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squalene
Squalene in H1N1 Vaccine

When the CDC/HHS determined that they would have to start producing a H1N1 vaccine there was a rather considerable cover-up as to the actual number of influenza infection that were breaking out, and both state and federal authorities started actually classifying the actual numbers of the confirmed cases in the name of political expediency, with no priority for public health.

At around the same time the CDC and FDA started talking about granting "authorization" for ""new and untested drugs, based on a Presidential Declaration of Emergency".

So here we are six months after the H1N1 outbreak starts, and six months after the CDC/HHS and FDA buttered up the medical community about a new and untested vaccine that would be coming out right around now so that immunizations could begin prior to Thanksgiving.

The CDC claims that the States now have million of doses that they can deploy, but everything seems to have gotten stuck on hold as it were, until the President made the Emergency Declaration on Friday based on a classified briefing he was given on Thursday of last week.

It is good that we have a vaccine, it is just too bad that we do not have enough to go around (hey, it sucks to be you).

Those people who do take the vaccine are likely to get a dose that has squalene, but the side effects (pain and misery) from the adjuvant are far less then actually getting deathly sick from the H1N1 virus..

The sad thing is that the government has been lying to the public since the very first day of this infection, and very little of what they have told the public has been truthful.

The military has taken a serious thrashing over the years for their use of squalene in "classified vaccines" , so you can find out quite a bit about the use of squalene and other vaccine adjuvants in the various web-sites the military has set up to explain their position.

The use of adjuvants come from a profound lack of preparedness by the government, and most certainly from the public. They are used when you really do not have enough of a vaccine to go around, go you add a chemical to the vaccine to trick the immune system of the person to whom you are giving the vaccine to. Consider it to be a type of virological "Hamburger Helper", so that they can take when they have and squeeze more doses out of a medication that is massively diluted... possibly to the point where the vaccine is of little or no value.

All things being considered this weak response is the results of extremely poor planning on the part of the government. They have had 8 months to prepare, and they should have had the first few million doses out and into the hands of the medical specialists by late May 2009 at the latest.

It is one thing for them to not be prepared for this situation, but it is completely unforgivable that they have been lying to the public and needlessly endangering the public for the past 6+ months. The only reason that H1N1 infections numbers are exploding right now is simply because school is back in session, and this illness is rampantly spreading through the populations of the children and young adults right now. I have been saying for months that the U.S. Government should have stop school restarting until after they had the vaccine, and it was widely distributed, and those of of greatest risk of getting deathly ill from it not allowed to go back to school until the vaccine had a few weeks to come up to full effectiveness in their systems (several weeks after taking the vaccine)

The CDC has been lying to the public by at least a 25:1 ratio, so that when they say that there has been only 40,000 cases, there really was an. actual 1,000,000+ cases. When they say that only 1000 children have died... there really was closer to 25,000 or more.

It will be important for anybody who takes the H1N1 vaccine to get a copy of the sheet that is supposed to be given out with each shot, and to compare the writing on the vial to what is on the piece of paper you are given (do not be surpised if they do not match). Then ask the person who is giving it to you about it the vaccine has any Squalene of not, if they do not know then find someplace else to get the vaccine (most medical people just give the medication, very few actually have any idea what the medication actually is). Pay attention to the batch codes or lot numbers, and get it put into writing exactly what you were given.

I have attached a snapshot of one of the military pages where there is a whole bunch of tap dancing by the military about the use of Squalene adjuvants, along with a long list of references and sources.

Liquid chromatography, and a small group of scientists who express vaccine from the injection sites of recently immunized patients will have some interesting announcements in a few weeks after the vaccine is "available" and in wide spread use.

The interesting thing about the use of an unapproved, and untested drugs and vaccines is that if the President makes an Emergency Declaration, then the companies who sold the vaccine to the government, and the people, hospitals, and agencies who give it can never be sued or held responsible is even the slightest way, even if it kills thousand of people. It is the ultimate "get out of jail free" card for the pharmaceutical companies.

http://www.anthrax.osd.mil/resource/qna/qaAll.asp?cID=319
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2009, 08:51:29 AM »

well I deffy ain't getting this vaccine it is deffy doing more harm I already told my hubby when he takes our daughter to the dr's next month he better not even let them give her that vaccine.
3 million ppl have this virus already 4k have already died from it if not more I think I will take my chances without that shot
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2009, 12:49:29 PM »

I didn't get the shot.  And I did end up coming down with Captain Trips, last week of Oct.  The initial flu symptoms last about a week.  But if you are unlucky, like I am, the virus has now settled in my left lung and I can't get it out.  I've been coughing till I puke for a few weeks.  I hit it with everything I could think of and so did my doctor.  Basically, it's just waiting for it to go away at this point.  I've spent a fortune on this flu already.  Between OTC's, supplements, doc visits, boxes and boxes of tissues.  It's just endless.  Nyquil is helping me now and alot of garlic oil capsules.  But I've tried it all.  I went through a package and a half of Mucinex extra strength, a package and a half of pseudophedrine, the real stuff.  An albuterol inhaler.  The list goes on.  I even had to go for a chest xray to make sure it wasn't pneumonia.  The doc is now saying that if it's still bugging me next week, she'll give me an antibiotic, but I think the garlic is taking care of it.  It's horrible.  Half the time, it feels like my left lung is coated with mucus.  Then I can go for a bunch of hours and think I'm getting better and then I start coughing and choking all over again.  I want it gone.  Whoever designed this virus needs to be strung up and roasted.
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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2009, 01:50:50 AM »

Did you try taking any Sulphur tablets? Taking 2 every 4 hours really helps clear the lungs. If you have a respiratory infection, Sulphur only takes two or 3 days to clear it. Plus they're cheap and you can get them over the counter.
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« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2009, 11:14:19 AM »

That's what I'm using the garlic for.  I really do notice a difference with the garlic.  I've been taking it since around Monday, I think, and today there's alot less of the phlem and not as much coughing.  I think it's just going to take time.  It's a horrible virus.  I hope it's the last of the big ones for awhile.
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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2009, 11:52:13 AM »

I hope you get better Carrigon. As I've said before I'm a firm believer in Garlic and Green Tea. Garlic for antibiotic and the green tea is antitoxin. I've already seen people in walmart wearing the white face masks... I basically hold my breath as I walk past people in the store and I wash my hands and face/nose area with anti-bacterial soap when I get home from any trip out. In addition I always do preventative with the garlic and green tea. So far, so good.
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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2009, 01:14:09 PM »

Experts say radical measures won't stop swine flu



LONDON – Health experts say extraordinary measures against swine flu — most notably quarantines imposed by China, where entire planeloads of passengers were isolated if one traveler had symptoms — have failed to contain the disease.

Despite initially declaring success, Beijing now acknowledges its swine flu outbreak is much larger than official numbers show.

China's official count of nearly 70,000 reported illnesses with 53 deaths is dwarfed by estimates of millions of cases with nearly 4,000 deaths in the United States, a nation with about a third of China's population.

Dr. Michael O'Leary, WHO's top representative in China, says there has been a dramatic spike in Chinese swine flu cases recently and those reported by the government are only "minimum numbers."

"We have new cases occurring all the time," he told The Associated Press last week. "There's always more deaths than we could possibly know about."

He said there is little data to prove interventions like mass quarantines and school closures slow down disease transmission. "To draw a causal link ... is not always possible," O'Leary said, adding that WHO expected a disease as contagious as swine flu to spread regardless of what measures countries impose.

China's Health Minister Chen Zhu defended his country's aggressive quarantine policy, telling the AP on Wednesday that the measures helped slow the spread of the virus long enough for China to develop a vaccine, which authorities are now scrambling to administer.

"With initial efforts of containment, actually we not only reduced the impact of the first wave to China, but we also won time for us to prepare the vaccine," Chen said in an interview on the sidelines of a meeting of the Global Forum for Health Research in Havana.

He said China was vaccinating 1.5 million people a day against swine flu as part of a massive effort to try to reach as many as 90 million people — about 7 percent of the country's population — by the end of the year.

"We know this is not enough for a population of 1.3 billion, but at least for the vulnerable people, for the students, people with underlying basic diseases and ... for pregnant women, we have vaccines," Chen said.

On Thursday, Dr. Zhong Nanshan, director of Guangzhou's Institute of Respiratory Diseases, said in a local newspaper he believed government officials were covering up swine flu deaths to appear as though their handling of the epidemic had been successful.

"I totally don't believe the current number of swine flu deaths that have been reported in the country," Zhong said in Guangzhou Daily. He was one of the doctors who openly challenged China's 2003 cover-up of its outbreak of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome.

China has acknowledged swine flu is now widespread despite its aggressive attempts at containment.

Earlier this month, Feng Zijian, head of China's Center for Disease Control and Prevention, said the country's reported figures are only "a very small portion" of the total number of cases.

He said China is now focusing on confirming severe cases and no longer tests every person with a fever for swine flu. He said the official figures were based on cases confirmed in outbreaks or at monitoring sites like hospitals.

Other nations that have carried out draconian swine flu policies indicate they have little effect in containing the disease.

Ukraine, which reported more than 250,000 suspected cases last week, closed all schools and universities, and advised people not to travel and to stay away from public places. In Mongolia, all bus travel has been suspended and gatherings of more than 40 people have been banned. Still, both countries are now facing major swine flu outbreaks.

Argentina, Singapore, Malaysia and Egypt have also enacted radical swine flu prevention measures — and all have been gripped by widespread outbreaks.

When WHO declared swine flu to be a pandemic in June, it described the virus as "unstoppable." It advised countries not to close their borders or impose mass quarantines, warning such measures would be useless since people often spread flu viruses before developing any symptoms.

China is no exception, scientists say.

"China did not keep the virus out. They failed," said Dr. Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Diseases Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota.

He said he believes the actual number of swine flu cases is "far in excess of what China is reporting," based on the center's own network of official and unofficial sources in the country.

Some experts say the relatively small size of China's reported outbreak is suspicious given that neighboring regions are battling huge epidemics. Last week, WHO said Mongolia, which borders China, was reporting its health system was being crushed by swine flu cases.

In Hong Kong, a city of 7 million on China's southern coastline, authorities have reported 40 swine flu deaths, compared to the 53 reported in China.

"The issue in China has to do with surveillance," said Sandra Mounier-Jack, a flu expert at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. Because swine flu symptoms are so vague, many cases are being missed in China, as they are everywhere, she said.

WHO and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention gave up counting swine flu cases months ago when the virus became widespread.

Past disease outbreaks also give experts reason to question China's numbers. In 2003, China covered up an epidemic of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, which ultimately killed about 800 people when it spread worldwide.
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« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2009, 01:17:00 PM »

Thanks Smiley  Today is the first day where I really notice a big difference, so let's hope it just goes away.

It's definitely airborne.  The first symptom I had was burning lungs and severe asthma like attack.  My lungs felt like I had breathed something in, like a chemical.  I actually went to the doc the next day thinking it was a severe asthma attack, but by that afternoon my temperature shot up to 102.6 and it was climbing and all the flu symptoms hit fast, really fast.  Like when I was in the doc's office, my temp was only 99 and I didn't have any flu symptoms.  Within only about three hours of seeing the doc, I came home, stood in my living room and all of a sudden my throat was being choked.  It was the freakiest feeling ever.  My entire respiratory system went crazy, couldn't breathe at all.  And it went on for a good twenty or thirty seconds where I only had time to think everyone was going to find me dead on the livingroom floor. Then by some miracle, it let up and I felt really fever hot.  Immediately went and took my temperature and it was high.  I knew when I saw the temperature that it was Swine Flu.  That choking from this was scary.  It was like right out of a movie where they just choke up and die.  If this thing ever mutates like that, everyone is dead meat.  I keep thinking that's just what happened to Ken Ober.  They said he was complaining of flu symptoms and then bang, he was dead.  Very scary.  Let's just hope this is the last of the big ones and whatever is in Russia stays there or is just this.
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